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FBI Detroit Interview: Wladyslaw Krasuski Reports Circular Vertically-Rising Vehicle in 1944 Germany

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In a November 7, 1957 interview conducted by SA Cassius Rathbun, Wladyslaw Krasuski of 5457 Joseph Campau, Detroit, described witnessing a circular vehicle rise vertically from a tarpaulin-enclosed compound near Gut Alt Golssen, approximately 30 miles east of Berlin, circa 1944, while held there as a Polish prisoner of war. The vehicle was circular, 75 to 100 yards in diameter and about 14 feet high, with a rapidly moving middle section producing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller.

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FD-245 (REV. 1-21-80)

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11-19-2025 FOIA #
80290 DOCID: 34714592

1. S. Department of Justice

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1. Notes re: interview with WLADYSLAN KRASUSKI (rec'd 11/7/57(

ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED
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DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 <signature>

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Date Received: 11/7/57
From: <empty>
(Name of contributor)

(Address of contributor): <empty>

By: <signature>
(Name of Special Agent)

To Be Returned: Yes [ ] No [x]

ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED
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DATE: 5/22/85 BY SP6 Hyatt

Description: Notes re interview w/ Wladyslaw Krasinski 11/7/57

File No: 00 26505-1a

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Interwencja w WŁADYSŁAW KRASUSKI
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Record Request FD-125 (5-27-55)

[ ] Birth [ ] Credit [x] Criminal [ ] Motor Vehicle
[ ] Death [ ] Marriage* [ ] INS

To: <empty>

Return to: Rainbow

File number: 100-26505
Buded: <empty>

Name and aliases of subject, applicant or employee & spouse:
Wladyslaw Krasuski
ara WALTER

Addresses:
Residence: V457 Jos. Canyon
Business: Empire Gourmet Breweries
Former: <empty>

*Date and place of marriage (if pertinent): <empty>

Race: W
Sex: [x] Male [ ] Female
Birth date: <empty>
Birthplace: <empty>

Age: <empty>
Height: <empty>
Weight: <empty>
Hair: <empty>
Eyes: <empty>

Arrest Number: <empty>
Fingerprint Classification: <empty>

Criminal Specialty: <empty>

Specific information desired: <empty>

<signature>
(See reverse side for results of check)

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URGENT 11-6-57 5-40 PM CS

TO SAC, DETROIT

FROM DIRECTOR 1P

UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS, IS-X. MR. W. KIASUSKI, Complant FIVE FOUR FIVE SEVEN JOS. ל. SEVEN JOS 7 CAMPAU, DETROIT ELEVEN MICHIGAN, ADDRESSED LETTER DATED NOVEMBER FOURTH TO ROBERT CUTLER, WHO IS SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, STATING QUOTE I MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROCKET IN TEXAS. I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE POLISH RADIO PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHOM I COULD SPEAK TO. UNQUOTE. IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEW KIASUSKI FOR ANY INFORMATION HE MAY HAVE. BUFILES REFLECT NO INFORMATION RE KIASUSKI. SUTEL.

END ACK PLS

OK FBI DE JH

SAC add 5:45 pm 11/6/87 Wm. J. Smill accused crum

sportment Not busted
for 12 mm mys me phone for address ay directory wax cross

Date: 5/29/85 Duelystey ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED DATE BY Plelijaties

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Detroit 31, Michigan
November 7, 1957

ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED
HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED
DATE 5/21/15 BY <signature>

# UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS

# UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (cont.)

In response to a letter directed by him to Mr. Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to President Dwight D. Eisenhower, reflecting that he "might have some information about the rocket in Texas," Wladyslaw Krasuski, 5457 Joseph Campau, Detroit, was interviewed November 7, 1957, and furnished the following information:

Born <empty> in the State of <empty>, Krasuski was brought from Poland as a prisoner of war to
FOIA(b)(6)

Krasuski was brought from Poland as a Prisoner of War to Gut Alt Golssen, approximately 30 miles east of Berlin, Germany, in May, 1942, where he remained until a few weeks after the end of World War II. He spent the following years at Displaced Persons Camps at Kork, Strasburg, Offenburg, Milheim and Freiburg, Germany. He attended a radio technician school at Freiburg and for about a year was employed in a textile mill at Laurachbaden, Germany. He arrived in the United States at New York, May 2, 1951, via the "S.S. General Stewart" as a Displaced Person, destined to the Reverend Father Petro (b) (6) Walkowiak, Hamtramck, Michigan; his alien registration number

# UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (cont.)

An "SS" guard appeared and talked briefly with the German driver of the tractor, who waited five to ten minutes, after which the noise stopped and the tractor engine was started normally. Approximately 3 hours later in the same swamp area, but away from the road where the work crew was cutting "hay", he surreptitiously, because of the German in charge of the crew and "SS" guards in the otherwise deserted area, observed a circular enclosure approximately 100 to 150 yards in diameter protected from viewers by a tarpaulin- type wall approximately 50 feet high, from which a vehicle was observed to slowly rise vertically to a height sufficient to clear the wall and then to move slowly horizontally a short distance out of his view, which was obstructed by nearby trees.

# UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (cont.)

This vehicle, observed from approximately 500 feet, was described as circular in shape, 75 to 100 yards in diameter, and about 14 feet high, consisting of dark gray stationary top and bottom sections, five to six feet high. The approximate three foot middle section appeared to be a rapidly moving component producing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller, but extending the cir- cumferance of the vehicle so far as could be observed. The noise emanating from the vehicle was similar but of somewhat lower pitch than the noise previously heard. The engine of the tractor again stalled on this occasion and no effort was made by the German driver to start the engine until the noise stopped, after which the engine started normally.

Uninsulated metal, possibly copper, cables one and one-half inch to two inches in diameter, on and under the surface of the ground, in some places covered by water, were observed on this and previous occasions, apparently running between the enclosure and a small concrete column-like structure between the road and enclosure.

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## AIRTEL

AMSD RM

# UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (cont.)

## AIRTEL (cont.)

TO: DIRECTOR, FBI

TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
FROM: SAC, DETROIT (100-26505)
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X.

ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED
HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED
DATE 5/21/85 BY <signature>

Re Detroit Teletype to Bureau, 11/7/57, captioned "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X."

Interview of WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI, aka. WALTER KRASUSKI, reported in Blank Memo, five copies of which are enclosed herewith for the Bureau, was conducted by SA CASSIUS RATHBUN.

No indication of irrational or otherwise abnormal behavior by KRASUSKI was observed during the interview.

KRASUSKI advised that his communication was directed to Mr. ROBERT CUTLER rather than to President EISENHOWER after seeing Mr. CUTLER's picture and identification with the President's Office in a local paper.

KRASUSKI resides with his wife, nee JOANN WISNIEWSKI, married in 1952 at Detroit, and four small children, in a single residence in an old Polish neighborhood at 5457 Jos. Campau Avenue, Detroit. No previous record located in Detroit Indices identifiable with KRASUSKI or his wife.

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FD-36 (Rev. 3-13-56)

F BI

Date: 11/7/57

Transmit the following message via TELETEYPE
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# The Oklahoma UFO Research Association

Kerry Liesch, Director
3539 N. W. 53rd
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Bob Stamps, Co-Director
5024 N. W. 20th
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

October 2, 1966
FBI OFFICE
913 Federal Building
Detroit, Michigan

Dear Sirs:

My organization would appreciate any information that you could send us on Unidentified Flying Objects, specifically those sightings in your area in early spring of this year.

We will greatly appreciate any information that you could send us on this subject. I thank you for your time and co-operation.

Sincerely: Kerry Liesch
Director, O.U.F.O.R.A.
KKL/lw

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Post Office Box 2118
Detroit, Michigan 48231
October 11, 1966

Mr. Kerry Liesch
Director
The Oklahoma UFO
Research Association
3539 N.W. 53rd
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Dear Mr. Liesch:

This is to acknowledge your letter of October 2, 1966.

Please be advised that this office does not have the information you have requested. It is possible that the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, may be the proper agency to contact.

1-Addressee
1-Detroit (100-26505)
IRA:frq
(2)
<signature>

Very truly yours,

<signature>
Paul H. Stoddard
Special Agent in Charge

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